Well today a thought came to the surface of my brain, an intriguing thought that I wished to grab and chase wherever it ran to.
So the exploration has begun,
Sunday formal/congregational/(there's another word I can't think of just now) I know this is a subject of much passion/ideals for many, Loverly Mafu the great mind stirrer has addressed it, so have others.
My query was why do we have creche?? Why is worship no place for Kids? Is it separating coverdentual children from the worship of God?? Is it useful in the teaching/nuturing of the child to Know and worship and praise God?
Joanne has this to say:
I'll be honest I like my children next to me in church. I like for them to see me reach for a tissue, to nod my head in agreement, to shake my head vigorously, to bow my head in humility. I like for them to know that God transcends *age*.
Jesus did not say "Send the children to children's church and the rest of you follow me." I believe with every fiber of my being that the family is the Divine design for socialization, nurture and training a child in the way they should go.
Convenience or Conviction?
As far as I've studied into it there seems to be no Biblical bases for where the young children of the covenant are segregated away from the worship of God, the opposite seems to be true,
" The Lord Jesus had much to say about these covenant children: see Matt.19:13-15; Mark 10:14ff, Luke 18:17, Luke 9:46-48; Mark 9:33ff, among others. The words used to describe these children in the Greek span several stages of development: from embryo in the womb to infant from pre-weaned children to those just weaned, from those who are without the power of speech to those who could cry "Hosanna!" The most powerful of these passages is that of Matthew 19:13-15: "Then the little children were brought to Him that He might put [His] hands on them and pray, but the disciples rebuked them. 14But Jesus said, "Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of heaven." 15And He laid [His] hands on them and departed from there" (NKJV)."
Some have regarded nurseries as a convenience where the adults would not be "bothered" by the activities of the young ones. There is something commendable in the desire not be distracted in worship. Yet, one asks, is this desire not to be distracted at the expense of our little ones hearing Christ's Word reached and to experience the teaching of the psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs?This is a statement made by the Session of the Beal Heights PCA
Who have encouraged their congregation to bring little ones into the house of God this is how they have done it
A "Cry Room" is a room, usually inside of or adjacent to the auditorium where public worship is taking place Usually, cry rooms are separated by a glass window or partition, and a speaker system "pipes-in" the preaching of the Word of God. The rooms use is for parents to quiet their children who are temporarily disrupting the worship service. The attendants in the room are the parents of the a actual children making use of the room. Once a child is quieted, then the parent re-enters the auditorium with the child for the remainder of the service
And yes my mind has wandered down yet another path:..................
Is the reason we find it so hard to include our young ones is that we have created a service that is unfriendly for them, yeap they just don't fit in,So why try??!! we frown at youthful exuberance in them wanting to say amen at the end of the prayer or them wanting to sway/dance with the music (which is What many toddlers naturally do when the hear a rhythm, its built in). We tell them to shush if they show delight at recognising a bible story/character that the pastor has mentioned from the pulpit, or even if they seem to be smiling/enjoying it too much.
Maybe the old can learn from the young Maybe having little ones with us will open our eyes to the exhuberance and joy that we sometimes lose in praising God, and we can teach them.
So the exploration has begun,
Sunday formal/congregational/(there's another word I can't think of just now) I know this is a subject of much passion/ideals for many, Loverly Mafu the great mind stirrer has addressed it, so have others.
My query was why do we have creche?? Why is worship no place for Kids? Is it separating coverdentual children from the worship of God?? Is it useful in the teaching/nuturing of the child to Know and worship and praise God?
Joanne has this to say:
I'll be honest I like my children next to me in church. I like for them to see me reach for a tissue, to nod my head in agreement, to shake my head vigorously, to bow my head in humility. I like for them to know that God transcends *age*.
Jesus did not say "Send the children to children's church and the rest of you follow me." I believe with every fiber of my being that the family is the Divine design for socialization, nurture and training a child in the way they should go.
Convenience or Conviction?
As far as I've studied into it there seems to be no Biblical bases for where the young children of the covenant are segregated away from the worship of God, the opposite seems to be true,
" The Lord Jesus had much to say about these covenant children: see Matt.19:13-15; Mark 10:14ff, Luke 18:17, Luke 9:46-48; Mark 9:33ff, among others. The words used to describe these children in the Greek span several stages of development: from embryo in the womb to infant from pre-weaned children to those just weaned, from those who are without the power of speech to those who could cry "Hosanna!" The most powerful of these passages is that of Matthew 19:13-15: "Then the little children were brought to Him that He might put [His] hands on them and pray, but the disciples rebuked them. 14But Jesus said, "Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of heaven." 15And He laid [His] hands on them and departed from there" (NKJV)."
Some have regarded nurseries as a convenience where the adults would not be "bothered" by the activities of the young ones. There is something commendable in the desire not be distracted in worship. Yet, one asks, is this desire not to be distracted at the expense of our little ones hearing Christ's Word reached and to experience the teaching of the psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs?This is a statement made by the Session of the Beal Heights PCA
Who have encouraged their congregation to bring little ones into the house of God this is how they have done it
A "Cry Room" is a room, usually inside of or adjacent to the auditorium where public worship is taking place Usually, cry rooms are separated by a glass window or partition, and a speaker system "pipes-in" the preaching of the Word of God. The rooms use is for parents to quiet their children who are temporarily disrupting the worship service. The attendants in the room are the parents of the a actual children making use of the room. Once a child is quieted, then the parent re-enters the auditorium with the child for the remainder of the service
And yes my mind has wandered down yet another path:..................
Is the reason we find it so hard to include our young ones is that we have created a service that is unfriendly for them, yeap they just don't fit in,So why try??!! we frown at youthful exuberance in them wanting to say amen at the end of the prayer or them wanting to sway/dance with the music (which is What many toddlers naturally do when the hear a rhythm, its built in). We tell them to shush if they show delight at recognising a bible story/character that the pastor has mentioned from the pulpit, or even if they seem to be smiling/enjoying it too much.
Maybe the old can learn from the young Maybe having little ones with us will open our eyes to the exhuberance and joy that we sometimes lose in praising God, and we can teach them.
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